Hi,
First, from Steve Cahn: The class of '70 has a new page on Facebook. Does anyone have any photos of official South "stuff?" I'm looking for things like a hall pass, or a G.O. card, or North-South memorabilia... anything. Please let me know. Genghisaha @ aol . com (please remove the spaces). If you want to be added to the page, please let me know that, too. Thanks.
Next, from Karin Sofarelli on Facebook: Congratulations to Bernie O'Brien on his election to the Nassau County High School Athletics Hall of Fame. What a guy! Thanks for all you did for South High School and its athletes! Great times.
Third, from Rich Wyeroski, former FAA Safety Inspector Operations: I read the piece on airport noise, and, unfortunately, there isn't too much that can be done when folks live around a large airport. The aircraft engines are much quieter than the older ones, so that helps a little. The FAA is very political and will just yes everyone to death, since they are really controlled by big business. Elected officials are sympathetic, but that is as far as it goes.
Engine development continues toward larger efficient engines that are quiet but there is no way one can sneak a 300-900,000 pound aircraft off the ground. JFK, LGA,TEB and Newark are the most congested airspace in the country, so it is what it is!
[Rich -- Still, two years ago, when I spent about a month -- in weeks spread from December to July -- living back at my mom's house in Green Acres, I was surprised how quiet it was. Nothing like it was in the late 50s and early 60s, when we sometimes had to wait a half minute for a plane to pass overhead, so we could resume conversation. I think some of the changes may have come with either new or extended runways or shifted flight patterns.]
Fourth, from Betsy Fels Pottruck to Valerie Nelson Gillen. The Getnicks lived at 85 Riverdale Road. Do you believe what they did to that house! I think Ken Getnick was in the class of '64, his brother, Richard, was much older, and his sister, Nancy, was very much younger than all of us. His mom, Helen, used to substitute teach at South all the time.
Finally, a long conversation from Facebook, spanning many classes at South from the 60s and 70s. This was started by Karen Doyle Pupke, when she asked: Does anyone know what year the girls were allowed to wear pants to school?
Ginny Gottesman Tessitore: I think it was 1967, but I’m not sure.
Liz Roth Fox: I wasn’t allowed to wear pants at Forest Road, so it was when I was in 7th grade, and I graduated from South in '76. That would make it 1970.
Alissa Ballot: I was in 10th grade, I think, so that would make it late 1970 or early 1971.
Leenie Marlene Jacknowitz Atwood: After 1968 at South.
Nancy Wollenweber Signore: I think 1970. My mother had a fit when I tried to put pants on to go to high school
Donna Kauderer-Haberman: Maybe 1969 at South?
Ginny Gottesman Tessitore: I wore pants to South 1969, and we were allowed one day a week at Buck when I was in sixth grade.
Susan Hoberman Teichman: I got sent home in 7th grade for wearing hip-hugger bell bottoms! That would have been 1971 or ‘72.
Karen Doyle Pupke: It's so funny. I remember it being the year I started South in ninth grade, which would have been 1971. But it could have been the year before.
Lucy Ragone: I started 7th grade at South in 1970. It was some time after that. I can't remember when though.
Linda Andrews Franz: I graduated in '67 and was told that was the last year the girls has to wear dresses.
Georgene Utter: After 1969 at South
Mary Donaldson: WOW. I'm class of ‘73, and I don't think that ever was an issue. Although I was the first to wear "hot pants" to school, and that did cause quite the stir.
Karen Doyle Pupke: I really don't think it was that early. I Googled it, the information says 1971
Mary Donaldson: It can't be 71. I'm sure I was wearing bellbottom jeans in 1970.
Karen Doyle Pupke: Yeah, it might have been ‘70.
Kathy Perine Morris: We wore pants in 1970. There was no issue. So I say ‘68 or ‘69.
Karen Doyle Pupke: I think your class was the first to wear them, Kathy.
Enid Villafane: I remember having a "Bermuda Shorts Day" one spring. Maybe it was in 1963, the year I graduated. Though it was just for one day, it shows the administration was starting to think about this issue back then.
Enid Villafane: I just found pictures of it in my yearbook. It was 1962. Some teachers even took part.
Karen Doyle Pupke: No way was it back in ‘62. They only had pants day once in a while. Again, if you Google it, it says ‘71.
Diane Cuccio: I graduated in’ 71, and I was wearing pants for a few years.
Carol Shine Horemis: The 70s sounds more realistic.
Dorinda Grimm Fountain: We used to have "Dress-Down Day” in June, I think up until late th late 60s. But I certainly wore jeans in the 70s.
Emily G. Schreiber: I guess most of you weren't part of the crinoline era -- except Carol and maybe Enid. By the way, Miss Hoogenboom was the first female teacher to wear pants.
Pat Norman Cole: When I was a senior in 1968, a group of us decided to wear slacks on a snowy day. When administration caught any one of us, we were sent home. I was the only one who managed to stay the full day. I remember what Mr. Donohue said to me went I entered his class. He said he wished that the rule would change because it’s too cold to wear dresses in the winter. He was a terrific teacher. My guess is that they allowed it in the following year, in 1969.
Bonnie J. La Mori: Late ‘60s I think.
Cheryl Shink Rego: I believe it was 1968.
Rise Abramson: It was 1968
Robin Equality Charney: 1968. Right after I graduated elementary school and started attending South. I never wore a dress
Louise Hartstein Feffer: 1968
Diane Dudley Kaempf: 1968
Elaine Maas: It certainly wasn't in 1967. The only day pants were allowed back then was "Bermuda Shorts Day," which was some time in May or June. It was a very big deal!
Mindy Sherman: I have the yearbooks from 1969 and 1970. 1969 – no pants at all. In 1970 – some pants, not a lot, but definitely some. I don't know if the rule was changed in the fall of 1969 or the spring of 1970, but that's when it happened. I graduated in 1969 – no pants. But someone from the class of '70 would know.
Carol Gardner: The earliest I remember wearing pants was 1970.
Michelle L Fischgrund: Wow! How times have changed!
Enid Villafane: Emily, I almost forgot about crinolines. We used to wash them with sugar to keep them stiff! LOL
Rise Abramson: Mindy, I didn't realize that you graduated early. Definitely 1969, I remember. I think, somewhere, I might even have pictures. At first, no jeans, but by the next year jeans were allowed.
Rise Abramson: Here’s a picture from the 1970 yearbook. Note, Janis Cohen was wearing slacks, and Jane Haimes was wearing "nice" jeans.
Effie Xenos: Great question. I don't know the answer.
Grace Krusinski Rugen: It was about 1970, but they used to have “Dress Down Day” before that. Doesn't anyone remember how often they had it?
Ginny Gottesman Tessitore: Okay, so I was in 7th grade in 1969/1970. Sounds about right. I remember having a hell of a time convincing my mother it was okay to wear pants though.
Liz Roth Fox: So we all agree – 69/70
Danna S Fichtel: When I started in 1971. Or maybe 5 or 6th grade at Forest Road.
Emily G. Schreiber: '69/'70 was when those of us who graduated earlier wore mini-skirts and hot-pants. So South’s administrators were probably happy to have the high school girls wearing pants.
Rise Abramson: I think you're right, Emily!
Fred Schecter: I graduated in ‘68, and we couldn't wear jeans until ‘69.
Louise Hartstein Feffer: Guessed wrong, I guess.
Joan Fels Stone: In 1969, my junior year.
Rich Eisbrouch: This is a neat conversation.
Emily G. Schreiber: Rich, I totally agree!
Linda Tobin Kettering: Joan is right – my senior year, 1969. We could wear pants, but no jeans.
Susan Hoberman Teichman: Ooops, I meant to say in ‘66/’67, in 7th grade. Class of '72.
Carol Fink Teitelbaum: 1968, when I was in the 10th grade.
Karen Doyle Pupke: It’s so funny how many different years are listed.
Fourth, from Betsy Fels Pottruck to Valerie Nelson Gillen. The Getnicks lived at 85 Riverdale Road. Do you believe what they did to that house! I think Ken Getnick was in the class of '64, his brother, Richard, was much older, and his sister, Nancy, was very much younger than all of us. His mom, Helen, used to substitute teach at South all the time.
Finally, a long conversation from Facebook, spanning many classes at South from the 60s and 70s. This was started by Karen Doyle Pupke, when she asked: Does anyone know what year the girls were allowed to wear pants to school?
Ginny Gottesman Tessitore: I think it was 1967, but I’m not sure.
Liz Roth Fox: I wasn’t allowed to wear pants at Forest Road, so it was when I was in 7th grade, and I graduated from South in '76. That would make it 1970.
Alissa Ballot: I was in 10th grade, I think, so that would make it late 1970 or early 1971.
Leenie Marlene Jacknowitz Atwood: After 1968 at South.
Nancy Wollenweber Signore: I think 1970. My mother had a fit when I tried to put pants on to go to high school
Donna Kauderer-Haberman: Maybe 1969 at South?
Ginny Gottesman Tessitore: I wore pants to South 1969, and we were allowed one day a week at Buck when I was in sixth grade.
Susan Hoberman Teichman: I got sent home in 7th grade for wearing hip-hugger bell bottoms! That would have been 1971 or ‘72.
Karen Doyle Pupke: It's so funny. I remember it being the year I started South in ninth grade, which would have been 1971. But it could have been the year before.
Lucy Ragone: I started 7th grade at South in 1970. It was some time after that. I can't remember when though.
Linda Andrews Franz: I graduated in '67 and was told that was the last year the girls has to wear dresses.
Georgene Utter: After 1969 at South
Mary Donaldson: WOW. I'm class of ‘73, and I don't think that ever was an issue. Although I was the first to wear "hot pants" to school, and that did cause quite the stir.
Karen Doyle Pupke: I really don't think it was that early. I Googled it, the information says 1971
Mary Donaldson: It can't be 71. I'm sure I was wearing bellbottom jeans in 1970.
Karen Doyle Pupke: Yeah, it might have been ‘70.
Kathy Perine Morris: We wore pants in 1970. There was no issue. So I say ‘68 or ‘69.
Karen Doyle Pupke: I think your class was the first to wear them, Kathy.
Enid Villafane: I remember having a "Bermuda Shorts Day" one spring. Maybe it was in 1963, the year I graduated. Though it was just for one day, it shows the administration was starting to think about this issue back then.
Enid Villafane: I just found pictures of it in my yearbook. It was 1962. Some teachers even took part.
Karen Doyle Pupke: No way was it back in ‘62. They only had pants day once in a while. Again, if you Google it, it says ‘71.
Diane Cuccio: I graduated in’ 71, and I was wearing pants for a few years.
Carol Shine Horemis: The 70s sounds more realistic.
Dorinda Grimm Fountain: We used to have "Dress-Down Day” in June, I think up until late th late 60s. But I certainly wore jeans in the 70s.
Emily G. Schreiber: I guess most of you weren't part of the crinoline era -- except Carol and maybe Enid. By the way, Miss Hoogenboom was the first female teacher to wear pants.
Pat Norman Cole: When I was a senior in 1968, a group of us decided to wear slacks on a snowy day. When administration caught any one of us, we were sent home. I was the only one who managed to stay the full day. I remember what Mr. Donohue said to me went I entered his class. He said he wished that the rule would change because it’s too cold to wear dresses in the winter. He was a terrific teacher. My guess is that they allowed it in the following year, in 1969.
Bonnie J. La Mori: Late ‘60s I think.
Cheryl Shink Rego: I believe it was 1968.
Rise Abramson: It was 1968
Robin Equality Charney: 1968. Right after I graduated elementary school and started attending South. I never wore a dress
Louise Hartstein Feffer: 1968
Diane Dudley Kaempf: 1968
Elaine Maas: It certainly wasn't in 1967. The only day pants were allowed back then was "Bermuda Shorts Day," which was some time in May or June. It was a very big deal!
Mindy Sherman: I have the yearbooks from 1969 and 1970. 1969 – no pants at all. In 1970 – some pants, not a lot, but definitely some. I don't know if the rule was changed in the fall of 1969 or the spring of 1970, but that's when it happened. I graduated in 1969 – no pants. But someone from the class of '70 would know.
Carol Gardner: The earliest I remember wearing pants was 1970.
Michelle L Fischgrund: Wow! How times have changed!
Enid Villafane: Emily, I almost forgot about crinolines. We used to wash them with sugar to keep them stiff! LOL
Rise Abramson: Mindy, I didn't realize that you graduated early. Definitely 1969, I remember. I think, somewhere, I might even have pictures. At first, no jeans, but by the next year jeans were allowed.
Rise Abramson: Here’s a picture from the 1970 yearbook. Note, Janis Cohen was wearing slacks, and Jane Haimes was wearing "nice" jeans.
Effie Xenos: Great question. I don't know the answer.
Grace Krusinski Rugen: It was about 1970, but they used to have “Dress Down Day” before that. Doesn't anyone remember how often they had it?
Ginny Gottesman Tessitore: Okay, so I was in 7th grade in 1969/1970. Sounds about right. I remember having a hell of a time convincing my mother it was okay to wear pants though.
Liz Roth Fox: So we all agree – 69/70
Danna S Fichtel: When I started in 1971. Or maybe 5 or 6th grade at Forest Road.
Emily G. Schreiber: '69/'70 was when those of us who graduated earlier wore mini-skirts and hot-pants. So South’s administrators were probably happy to have the high school girls wearing pants.
Rise Abramson: I think you're right, Emily!
Fred Schecter: I graduated in ‘68, and we couldn't wear jeans until ‘69.
Louise Hartstein Feffer: Guessed wrong, I guess.
Joan Fels Stone: In 1969, my junior year.
Rich Eisbrouch: This is a neat conversation.
Emily G. Schreiber: Rich, I totally agree!
Linda Tobin Kettering: Joan is right – my senior year, 1969. We could wear pants, but no jeans.
Susan Hoberman Teichman: Ooops, I meant to say in ‘66/’67, in 7th grade. Class of '72.
Carol Fink Teitelbaum: 1968, when I was in the 10th grade.
Karen Doyle Pupke: It’s so funny how many different years are listed.
The South '65 e-mail addresses: reunionclass65 . blogspot . com (please remove the spaces)
The South '65 photo site: picasaweb . google . com/SouthHS65 (ditto)
Rich
The South '65 photo site: picasaweb . google . com/SouthHS65 (ditto)
Rich